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Welcome!

My name's Clifford Stumme, and I explain the deeper meanings of popular songs. Let's have a conversation about what you think about the songs and go deeper together.

Podcast: Interview - Youth Pastor Who Teaches Pop Music in Sunday School (ft. Matt and Jennifer)

Podcast: Interview - Youth Pastor Who Teaches Pop Music in Sunday School (ft. Matt and Jennifer)

I'm really excited about today's episode. Matt and Jennifer were really great people to get to know when they flew me out to Neoga Illinois to speak to their youth about the deeper meanings of popular songs. The conversation was good, and the topics were deep during the trip, but I especially enjoyed this conversation about how they integrate pop song lyrics into their Sunday School and youth group programs at their church. Enjoy!

~Cliff

What does “Chained to the Rhythm” by Katy Perry mean?

What does “Chained to the Rhythm” by Katy Perry mean?

What does "Something Just Like This" by Coldplay and The Chainsmokers mean?

What does "Something Just Like This" by Coldplay and The Chainsmokers mean?